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Should the US Embrace or Reject Engagement with China?

Paul Heer joins Deep Dish to argue that engagement is necessary in shaping the US-China relationship.
US President Joe Biden, right, and Chinese President Xi Jinping shake hands before their meeting on the sidelines of the G20 summit meeting Play Podcast

About the Episode

Chinese leader Xi Jinping is in his third five-year term as the nation's president, putting him on track to stay in power for life at a time of severe economic challenges and rising tensions with the US and others. Nonresident senior fellow Paul Heer joins Deep Dish to argue the importance of engagement with China as a necessary component of US foreign policy. If we do not pursue it, he says, we are missing opportunities for a more peaceful coexistence between both countries and the world.

This episode originally aired on August 4, 2022.

About the Experts
Nonresident Senior Fellow, Lester Crown Center on US Foreign Policy
Council expert Paul Heer
Prior to joining the Council as a nonresident fellow, Paul Heer served for 30 years as a specialist on East Asian affairs in the US intelligence community. He served on the staff of the President's daily brief and as a member of the senior analytic service at the CIA prior to becoming the national intelligence officer for East Asia, a position he held from 2007 to 2015.
Council expert Paul Heer
Brian Hanson
Former Vice President, Studies
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Brian Hanson served as the vice president of studies at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He managed the Council's research operations and hosted the Council's weekly podcast, Deep Dish on Global Affairs.
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